Author Topic: Halo 4 and Halo Anniversery (Read 1397 times)

yoh · « **on:** June 06, 2011, 12:29:30 PM »

what are your opinions on both

Stealth · « **Reply #1 on:** June 06, 2011, 03:39:15 PM »

Looking forward to the remake, really hoping all of the classic Halo PC maps make it into the remake, cause those maps was epic for online MP, and in the trailer, I saw a clip of what looked like a classic racing map Infinity, and if that map is what I saw, then there's hope.
As for the Halo 4, I can't say I'm not looking forward to it, but right now, I'm not going "HOLY SHIT IT'S HALO 4".

Keel · « **Reply #2 on:** June 06, 2011, 10:59:31 PM »

No Bungie? I'm quite skeptical on Halo 4.

clone12tm · « **Reply #3 on:** June 07, 2011, 08:53:45 AM »

Quote from: Keel on June 06, 2011, 10:59:31 PM

No Bungie? I'm quite skeptical on Halo 4.

I second this.
If you saw the trailer, there were significant changes in his armor when he woke from cryo sleep. I honestly doubt he could change his armor while he was a block of ice. They need to get the Halo 3 (Mark 6) armor back on him. Plus, Cortana's voice is shrill as fuck. Obviously they changed the voice actor. I don't have high hopes for Halo 4. And again, Halo: Anniversary I have the same issues. The armor looks like the predecessor to the Mark 4 or 5 armor from 10 years ago (when they were creating the Masterchief's armor, they had multiple beta armors).
Image of the first armor: http://halo.wikia.com/index.php?title=Pre-Xbox_Halo&image=Halo_original_4-jpg

So, yeah, I'm not happy about the Halo: Anniversary entirely. The armor looks older than the Mark 5.

Stealth · « **Reply #4 on:** June 07, 2011, 09:15:31 AM »

Quote from: Keel on June 06, 2011, 10:59:31 PM

No Bungie? I'm quite skeptical on Halo 4.

Keel, remember, most of 343 are from Bungie.

clone12tm · « **Reply #5 on:** June 08, 2011, 08:07:51 AM »

Quote from: Stealth on June 07, 2011, 09:15:31 AM

Keel, remember, most of 343 are from Bungie.

Regardless. There were people who have been on Bungie since Halo CE 10 years ago - but they're very few and they continue to work for Bungie - the same goes for Halo 2 employees. An entire fresh out of college batch came in for Halo 3 and more new people came in for Reach as well. So, a large majority of 343 is going to be built of n00bs.

Stealth · « **Reply #6 on:** June 08, 2011, 12:07:29 PM »

Yes, but let me point out something, do you really think the same team should making games over and over again? No, you need some new guys to put some new ideas in the mix, and to learn the trade.

Damian · « **Reply #7 on:** June 08, 2011, 03:57:59 PM »

I think everyone is waiting to see how well 343 handles Halo 4, of course, but you have to imagine that they are well aware of this and will do everything they can to be consistent and notch it up even. Frankie has been with Halo since the early days and is clearly excited about making this game as great as any fan's expectations.

As for Halo CE Anniversary, I am actually MORE excited about playing that. 10 years, yo! And the flashback button that switches to the old graphics? Brilliant.

The other day I needed to check out something in the Delta Halo level of H2 and found that I had no saves that went that far in the campaign anymore. So I had to play the game from the beginning up to that level. What a joy plowing my way through those spaces. I used to dream about maps in Halo 2 as if they were real places I had been. It brought it all back. And Halo CE would be even more of a blast to revisit than that, so...

My only question: is Mendoza still hanging out in the fog above the 343 Gulity Spark swamp level?

Stealth · « **Reply #8 on:** June 08, 2011, 04:26:49 PM »

I think for now, ass soon as E3 wraps up, and I can preorder Halo CEA, I'm going to, but I'm to hold off on preordering Halo 4 until I've had a chance to play the Halo CE remake, and seen more than a CG teaser.
And if I remember right, back in Halo 3, Bungie highered some guys who worked on some major popular custom content for Halo Custom edition, so all of these new guys aren't really noobs, they're more of seasoned fans. Those people who was given a job because of some CC they made, those guys know they Halo game inside and out, I still know a few people who in the early years of Halo PC was doing things with the game that shouldn't even been able to be done.

clone12tm · « **Reply #9 on:** June 09, 2011, 12:10:11 PM »

Quote from: Stealth on June 08, 2011, 12:07:29 PM

Yes, but let me point out something, do you really think the same team should making games over and over again? No, you need some new guys to put some new ideas in the mix, and to learn the trade.

Well yeah, I'm not disagreeing with you there. That's just business. I'm not skeptical about the story or the graphics - just strictly the gameplay. The gameplay probably matters more than anything. I plan on pre-ordering both Anniversary and H4 because even though my expectations may be high, I'm a dedicated Halo fan and I really would like to see it through. I have every Halo game available for Xbox except for Halo 2 (which I plan on buying soon, I've never played it). Plus, I even have Halo CE for PC AND downloaded onto my console.

I think my only issue is that I would hate to see something terrible happen that doesn't stick with the story. If they tied in the equipment, tactics, and story with the book and kept things along the line with Halo CE, Halo 2, and Halo 3 then I would be completely thrilled. My entire argument doesn't really lie with the capability of the team to execute the job (because I'm sure they're all qualified). I just feel that there should not be any excess filth (armor abilities, no damage bleeding, blooming reticle, etc).

And Damian, I like all of your points as well. I don't disagree at all. I didn't know there was a flashback feature until you posted it here. That's fantastic. I just don't like how the Multiplayer is going to be just like Reach.. It shouldn't be. It can't be. It just doesn't feel right.

I'm not biased, I'm just very concerned.
It would be cool if they put hidden skulls in the story again. I would very much approve.

Damian · « **Reply #10 on:** June 09, 2011, 01:08:08 PM »

Yeah, Certain Affinity are involved in Anniversary, so it should be nice map design.

And YES TO SKULLS!

Nick MdO · « **Reply #11 on:** June 11, 2011, 12:49:29 PM »

Halo: CE Anniversery looks awesome, but when I saw the trailer for it everything looked good up until I heard it say they were remaking 7 of the multiplayer maps compatible with xbox live. "7"? Why not all of them? If they had to push up the release date to remake all of the maps, I wouldn't mind. Still, not that big of a deal. The campaign and multiplayer still look awesome. I hope there will still be forge, theater mode, and firefight.

I'm not sure what to think of Halo 4. I kinda want to see where the story goes from there. I thought Halo was done with sequels after I saw the ending to Halo 3.

yoh · « **Reply #12 on:** June 12, 2011, 08:33:36 AM »

well according to frank after the microsoft press confrence Halo CE:A is basicly just the original Halo CE with the reach graphics engine running simultaniously which allows for the flash back button and that 6 of the 7 multiplayer maps were for general multiplayer games and the 7th was for firefight however little was told about H4

clone12tm · « **Reply #13 on:** June 12, 2011, 12:51:46 PM »

Quote from: yoh on June 12, 2011, 08:33:36 AM

well according to frank after the microsoft press confrence Halo CE:A is basicly just the original Halo CE with the reach graphics engine running simultaniously which allows for the flash back button and that 6 of the 7 multiplayer maps were for general multiplayer games and the 7th was for firefight however little was told about H4

Yep. This is known. Read the previous posts, please.

Spec Ops Elite · « **Reply #14 on:** June 19, 2011, 09:31:56 PM »

Quote from: Damian on June 08, 2011, 03:57:59 PM

As for Halo CE Anniversary, I am actually MORE excited about playing that. 10 years, yo! And the flashback button that switches to the old graphics? Brilliant.

My only question: is Mendoza still hanging out in the fog above the 343 Gulity Spark swamp level?

YES! Certainly the most exciting part of it all. I love how beautiful The Silent Cartographer map looks in the new one too!! That was the part they showed in the trailer. I would really really love that level! I think it's one of the most beautiful levels in HALO 1.

The flashback feature really makes me nostalgic...10 years...wow..

Hahahaa, Mendoza!

Mator · « **Reply #15 on:** June 26, 2011, 08:47:45 PM »

Well I couldn't care less about Halo 4 right now, it's so far away and we know so little about it... at this point in time we can do little more than wait.

As for Halo Anniversary - now that's something to talk about.

On June 6, when I saw the trailer starting, I was so excited I didn't even blink. I still play Halo: Combat Evolved (PC) actively today, so the remake would mean a lot to me. I don't know how many times I've wanted the game to have better graphics, or a larger community. I had been following the rumor for some time, but the confirmation was still unexpected.

But as the trailer progressed, I couldn't help but notice things. I've been tricking/glitching/stunting in HPC for five years, mainly in multiplayer. It wasn't far in the trailer when I saw that the multiplayer was with Reach physics. I desperately searched the internet for some source which would tell me I'm wrong, and explain away the Reach multiplayer, but I found that it was indeed the case.

And I was crushed. The multiplayer was what made the game so replayable, something that I could continue to come back to for years. To hear that they weren't remaking it, that they were taking the easy route, that they were just making a Reach map pack, made me angry and confused. The fact that it would just be for xbox was fine with me, I'd be willing to buy an Xbox just to play the remake. But the fact that it would lack the original Halo: Combat Evolved multiplayer experience, that made me want to not get the game at all in protest!

It's just so wrong, and the excuses so thin. Not split up the community, PAH! The community is already split. If you wanted to make a community that wasn't split you would have made all the games expansions to each other!

Reach multiplayer! I mean come on! Players can get Reach multiplayer in Reach! I'm not trying to deny Reach players more maps/dlc, they can still have their stinkin' remade maps! But to deny the original Halo fans, the lan party fanatics, and the hardcore Halo PC players of the original Halo: Combat Evolved multiplayer experience... that's just wrong!

It's been 20 days, and I'm still fuming about it! I don't know if I'll ever get over it. It overshadowed the remake with a cloud of disappointment. Honestly, remaking the game was an obvious move - any company would do it. Remaking the multiplayer would be what would truly take the cake, what would set 343 apart in their first days in the spotlight as an amazing company sure to make all Halo fans as giddy as goats. But no... it's too hard, it's not worth it, we don't want to split the community... Such poor excuses for such a great disappointment.

-Mator

Stealth · « **Reply #16 on:** June 26, 2011, 11:09:13 PM »

Mator, I spoke to you about my thoughts about why they did what they did. But hey, if you get it great, if you don't oh well. I bet they have a really good reason, may it be under stand able to us or not is up to us, all we can do is just go with the flow they've set and point out the flaws in what they've done/doing and hope they learn from it.

clone12tm · « **Reply #17 on:** June 27, 2011, 02:42:06 PM »

Quote from: Stealth on June 26, 2011, 11:09:13 PM

Mator, I spoke to you about my thoughts about why they did what they did. But hey, if you get it great, if you don't oh well. I bet they have a really good reason, may it be under stand able to us or not is up to us, all we can do is just go with the flow they've set and point out the flaws in what they've done/doing and hope they learn from it.

Personally, I have expectations as well, but I'm gonna get it anyway. Starting 2012 I'm pre-ordering it. I have some doubts and fears but I want it.

WraithDawg · « **Reply #18 on:** June 29, 2011, 02:13:26 PM »

halo anniversary is going to be reach with a new campaign slapped on it, big deal. i normally don't play the campaigns that hard any way. except for halo 3, that's a good one. im also glad that anniversary - stop. anniversary is such a long thing to type. its now called halo 1.5. i was happy when i saw that halo 1.5 was going to be $40. hopefully they have some new mapage out, should bring back sandbox exactly the way it was in halo 3.

ok, im done typing now.

Stealth · « **Reply #19 on:** June 29, 2011, 03:15:38 PM »

Oh my, I've hacked some one's post.
any ways, I'm just calling it Halo CEA.

clone12tm · « **Reply #20 on:** June 29, 2011, 06:43:20 PM »

Quote from: Stealth on June 29, 2011, 03:15:38 PM

Oh my, I've hacked some one's post.
any ways, I'm just calling it Halo CEA.

Damn Stealth, you a douche.

Waviest · « **Reply #21 on:** October 29, 2011, 12:07:03 PM »

ok time to revive this i hope this works and helps. i heard halo cea is just updated original campain only with more easter eggs,terminals,and other goodies. the multiplayer is on the reach engine (because they didnt want to devide the players) but you can only play 7 maps.6 are remade halo ce maps and the 7th is a fire fight map with friendly/helping AI. i have heard this is not gonna be a map pack for reach disc like odst was for halo 3. only the 7 maps are playable which i think is some BS.max reached

Stealth · « **Reply #22 on:** October 29, 2011, 01:19:05 PM »

Quote from: Waviest on October 29, 2011, 12:07:03 PM

ok time to revive this i hope this works and helps. i heard halo cea is just updated original campain only with more easter eggs,terminals,and other goodies. the multiplayer is on the reach engine (because they didnt want to devide the players) but you can only play 7 maps.6 are remade halo ce maps and the 7th is a fire fight map with friendly/helping AI. i have heard this is not gonna be a map pack for reach disc like odst was for halo 3. only the 7 maps are playable which i think is some BS.max reached

Halo CEA is the original campaign with more Easter eggs, terminals, A extra graphics engine layered over the top of the original Halo CE engine with some extra graphic stuff.

clone12tm · « **Reply #23 on:** October 29, 2011, 10:27:20 PM »

Quote from: Waviest on October 29, 2011, 12:07:03 PM

ok time to revive this i hope this works and helps.

no

Waviest · « **Reply #24 on:** November 02, 2011, 07:53:10 PM »

Well I never played halo cea the first halo game i played was halo 3.So i realy dont care but i got it preordered but im just gonna return it back to get reach because my reach copy is borrowed.i also said before cea wasnt gonna be a map pack disc like odst.i only play multi i dont realy play campain unless its multi.so my opinion i dislike it.I think im gonna get some bull s. for this by clone.halo 4 is by 343 so some issues i dont hate it but they are newish.so they can F it up or make it better.

Waviest · « **Reply #25 on:** November 13, 2011, 07:22:33 PM »

halo anniversery in 3 days not counting today. anyone preorderd it and whos gonna get it?

Stealth · « **Reply #26 on:** November 13, 2011, 08:50:24 PM »

I have it preordered, all I have to do is go in and pick it up.

Waviest · « **Reply #27 on:** November 13, 2011, 11:27:56 PM »

I've seen the maps on halo waypoint should be great for halo cea fans and and a new experiance for new players. i predict the old players will rape the new players at the maps.

Waviest · « **Reply #28 on:** November 15, 2011, 08:29:27 PM »

Its out! the game that changed shooting games is now back.got it preordered but my in my area i have to wait 48 hours after release but told to wait a day.

Waviest · « **Reply #29 on:** November 17, 2011, 05:48:12 PM »

played campain...fn amazing but the grunt funerual skull makes it to easy. you and allies can accidently die from the grunt bomb and dont use it a protecting mission if any. also i found a trick. shoot the grunt around 2 feet in front of a other grunt then the exploding grunt will push the other now dead grunts into enemys for multi kills.